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  • hxii 53 minutes ago
    It's interesting to see use-cases like this "in the wild" (as opposed to some hobbyist group trying stuff out).

    With a little investment, I think Meshtastic/Reticulum could do wonders for communities like this. With Argentina being largely flat, even putting up a relatively short mast on the roof of a house should give it a good enough range (~10-30km).

  • andyjohnson0 2 hours ago
    The distances and remoteness mentioned in the article are impressive. And is the human need and ingenuity for communication. It reminded me of William Gibson's description of 1950s farmers in the US using metal wire fences as radio antennas.

    In the 70s and 80s (and probably before) in the UK, the BBC used to broadcast occasional "sos messages" [1] prior to the main daily news summaries on FM radio - for people who were away from home and, for whatever reason, uncontactable. They usually related to a relative being dangerously ill. I remember hearing them on my parent's car radio on summer camping trips.

    Obviously the uk is a small and quite densely populated island but, without two way personal communications, some needs were similar to those described in the article. It changed a lot of things.

    [1] https://swling.com/blog/2012/09/radio-4-and-now-an-urgent-so...

    • BoxOfRain 1 hour ago
      Honestly I'm very sad that the AM broadcast bands (for those unaware there's two in Europe: long wave and medium wave) have been allowed to fall out of use in the UK without regulatory reform. Fair enough the BBC and commercial broadcasters don't want it any more, Absolute Radio stopped on AM because the fine from Ofcom was actually less than running the transmitter estate for example, but there's no reason community/heritage efforts like Radio Caroline need to be subject to a burdensome licensing regime from an era AM was big business when their band is currently almost dead. In my view we should do the opposite, the whole band should be opened to hobbyist broadcasters for a nominal fee and a power limit of a few hundred watts; it's not like most people have the space to put up an aerial that'll go very far on AM.

      It feels very wasteful of a scarce resource to leave this spectrum abandoned, especially when it has interesting properties.

    • tecleandor 49 minutes ago
      Oh, I remember the equivalent service in National Spanish radio, I think up until the 90s. It was called "Servicio de socorro".
    • eesmith 1 hour ago
      I visited a maritime museum which showed a film clip from WW2 about a radio broadcast set up so that merchant sailors could get messages from their family.

      I am unable to find an online resource with more info, though I know from general reading and from visiting WW2-era museum ships that sailors were listening to radio shows while at sea. I assume it was all shortwave, back in the time when radio dials included city names.

    • nephihaha 1 hour ago
      The UK is unevenly populated and it certainly isn't the one island. In Scotland alone, for example, we have had dozens of inhabited islands varying from one or two people up to thousands. We also have places with low population density due to the Highland Clearances (historical ethnic cleansing) and terrain.
      • andyjohnson0 1 hour ago
        Thats certainly true, and I enjoy spending time in such places when I can. I was backpacking in Knoydart and on Skye this past summer -- and in many places there was no phone reception, and I was several hours walk from the nearest habitation or road, with nobody knowing quite where I was.

        As for "small island" - I was trying to make a point about the size of the uk on a global scale, and compared to vast places like the Argentinian campo. But perhaps "island group" or "archipelago" would have been a better choice.

  • fjd 1 hour ago
    Sailing communities have a tradition called "Cruisers' Net", some of them having started back in 1950-60. Usually in the morning via VHF different people will take turns speaking and doing parts. They'll do segments like weather, arrivals/departures, events, buy/sell/trade, etc.
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  • fennecfoxy 1 hour ago
    >Argentina, the world’s eighth-largest country I think this says something about human progress. We haven't really pulled it together yet, have we?

    Through the efforts of many (and yet still few) we have created such amazing technologies. And yet so many are still so poor and without the benefits of modern technology because we've allowed a system (capitalism) to be created where wealth and access to technology accumulates up top and no, it does not really "trickle down".

    To me, it really is the saddest thing about human existence and entirely predictable because of how most of our human behaviours are linked to evolutionary processes.

    It's nice to romanticise human emotion and connection in a rugged environment using technology that we consider defunct and for them to be able to live a life that many would consider "more natural". But then one of them gets sick. Someone who loves, is loved, who creates art and consumes art, who smiles when the petrichor hits their nostrils after a dry Summer. And then they die.

    I just really wish that things were more equitable because we definitely have enough to go around.

  • reaperducer 58 minutes ago
    KPFT/Houston has been doing something very similar for almost 50 years.

    KPFT's version is a little more specialized. It's called The Prison Show and transmits messages from families to their loved ones behind bars.

    When I'm in Houston, I try to listen because it gives you a taste of a segment of life and people you may otherwise never come in contact with. If you're interested in human nature and the power of communication, it's very engaging.

    The last time I heard it, it was on in the evening, I think on a weekend.

  • successdraftee 2 hours ago
    Interesting. I wonder how missed calls work.
    • doublerabbit 2 hours ago
      A goat comes charging and rams it's horn in to the back of your leg.
    • eesmith 1 hour ago
      The article mentions that some messages, like a death notice, are sent multiple times, and gives an example of how a listener can pass on a message to people to others.